IMHO a user would still get a better value for their money at this price for ancient technology buying the newer MBP if you have to have a Mac laptop. If you can't handle any failure then you need to build redundancy or other safeguards into your workflow. All electronics can fail and that's what the warranty is for. If you dig enough you'd find common failures for the 2015 model as well. There are people with 2018 models, such as myself, who have had no issues with their KB or T2 or anything else. 2015 models may be less likely to fail, but that isn't the same as guaranteed to not fail. Apple had warranties around when the 2015 was released and Apple has performed warranty repairs on 2015 models. Like I say, it's my opinion, but these refurbs are now not looking so good on that front, YMMV.įorums are always a bit pulled to extremes, but come on. In OP's case, it sounds like they do want a relatively powerful machine, opting for the dGPU, and they are looking for at least reasonable value for money.
That's a very specific case right there though, so frankly, an iMac, a Windows alternative, a used 2015 or a 2018 absolutely have their merits for consideration, depending on individual circumstance.
Some might be willing to fork out whatever price Apple sticks on these units because it has to be a mac, it has to be a laptop, it has to be 'as new' from Apple and they can't risk having to take it in for a repair in the (unacceptably high, yet still overall unlikely) case of a KB failure. I don't see how this is incompatible with what I wrote? The hardware problems of the new models are irrelevant we're talking about the value proposition of the 2015 in 2019 and for me it's now rapidly diminishing given Apple has kept the pricing pretty darn high on these machines. The 2015 is starting to get a little left behind in some ways so its just something to think about, considering they're still going to be paying top dollar. This will all depend on OP's needs, but I'm guessing they're going to want a good 4 years out of a purchase, and want a reasonably capable machine over that timeframe (they mention wanting the top of the line CPU and the dGPU). Naturally if it's a company machine it makes no difference if its a private machine and you're looking for at least reasonable value, which reading the OP seems to be the case in this thread, then it's very much something to bear in mind. Like I say, it's my opinion, but these refurbs are now not looking so good on that front, YMMV.
Click to expand.I don't see how this is incompatible with what I wrote? The hardware problems of the new models are irrelevant we're talking about the value proposition of the 2015 in 2019 and for me it's now rapidly diminishing given Apple has kept the pricing pretty darn high on these machines.